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Baptism by water, is different to/from Baptism of the Holy Spirit.


I have been reading a lot about this, read much about how the Baptist Church gets so much wrong about baptism, salvation, once saved – always saved and all the other non Biblical beliefs they follow.

Having started out Christian life, in a Baptist Church and being delivered from that terrible example, cult-like behaviours, much heresy and some pretty horrible spiritual abuse, I am unlearning some of what I heard there, although much of it, I was very aware seemed wrong and I know God was protecting me from learning all the wrong messages.

So, following this, I am very interested in water baptism and what it is for – being for the repentance of our sins?

I am already aware it does not equal being saved (i.e. not getting your ticket to heaven), or to be filled with the Holy Spirit.

I read there are Biblical New Testament examples of people who received the Holy Spirit without water baptism and examples of people who were saved without water baptism.

But, it is also something required and I need to know exactly why. I don’t do anything unless I know exactly why – otherwise what’s the point?

I don’t do anything to ‘look good in Church’, I do what I know God wants.

I am too vigilant, have too much insight to just believe anything that doesn’t seem right, too discerning, not image needy and not willing to be a sheep – praise God!

Author: Healing From Complex Trauma & PTSD/CPTSD

I am a survivor of complex and multiple trauma and abuse, who at the age of 40, began my healing journey. I am using my journey to recovery and healing, to help others, to help survivors feel less alone, validated, encouraged and to enable others to understand themselves more. Complex trauma, particularly from severe, prolonged childhood abuse, is profoundly life changing. Complex trauma produces complex adults. The journey to recovery is a painful, often lonely, emotional daily challenge and it is my aim to encourage others in their daily battle. ~ Lilly Hope Lucario

4 thoughts on “Baptism by water, is different to/from Baptism of the Holy Spirit.

  1. There is no redeeming power in any water other than the water that poured out of Jesus side after the blood poured forth when they pierced him in his side while he was on the cross. Salvation comes from a personal relationship that you enter into with God, not the pastor, church name, neither it’s members, where you accept the Lord as your Savior and God. I have found that too many rely upon someone else to tell them or validate for them what is right and wrong, and when you give anyone other than God/Creator that kind of power you will have a life of being misled. Baptism does not save you, it is however symbolic. The baptism is a symbol that you have already accepted the Lord as Savior and God and that you are now dead to your old self,(stepping into the water) buried with Christ (submerged under the water) and now risen with Christ (coming up and out of the water) Death Burial and Resurrection with Christ. Now that is Baptism…………..Grow in grace

  2. Baptism of the Holy Spirit is something that Jesus promised to send to us. The Holy Spirit is not something that you have to go into a room and work for ( tarrying) it is a gift that is promised to each and everyone that believes. It is not always manifested in speaking in an unknown tongue, sometimes the Holy Spirit makes our conversations sweeter, our words kinder, our hearts softer, and our living better and our mind and spirit peaceful and that alone can be another language depending on how one lived before accepting Christ as Lord and Savior. It’s a gift and all we have to do to be filled with it is accept the one who promised it, it comes with accepting Gods atonement for transgression, sin past, present and future. The Holy Spirit is not out of reach and only for a select few, it is a gift to all that believe……………


    What does the washing of water found in Ephesians 5:26 mean? Should you, as a believer in Christ, look to creed books and Bible commentaries for the answer to that question or should you look to translations of the Bible for truth? Do you want to trust men or do you want to trust God’s written word?

    Ephesians 5:25-26…just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for it, 26 that He might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, (NKJV)

    How did Christ sanctify and cleanse the church? The church is the body of Christ. The church is comprised of Christians. How did Christ sanctify and cleanse the church?

    Ephesians 5:26 to make her holy and clean, washed by baptism and God’s word;(The Living Bible- Paraphrased)

    Ephesians 5:26 that He might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the Word, (KJV)

    Ephesians 5:26 in order to make her holy, cleaning her with the baptismal water by the Word. (Weymouth New testament)

    Ephesians 5:26 He did this to make her holy by washing her in a bath of water with the word. (Common English Bible)

    Ephesians 5:26 He made the church holy by the power of his word, and he made it pure by washing it with water.(Contemporary English Version)

    Ephesians 5:26 In order that he might sanctify it, purifying [it] by the washing of water by [the] word, (Darby Translation)

    Ephesians 5:26 He died to make the church holy. He used the telling of the Good News to make the church clean by washing it with water. (ERV-Easy-to-Read-Version)

    Ephesians 5:26 He did this to make the church holy by cleaning it, washing it using water along with the spoken words. (God’s Word Translation)

    Ephesians 5:26 He did this to dedicate the church to God by his word, after making it clean by washing it in water, (Good News Translation)

    Ephesians 5:26 He did this to make the church holy by cleansing it, washing it using water alone with the spoken words. (Names of God Bible)

    Ephesians 5:26 so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, (New American Standard Bible)

    Ephesians 5:26 He did that so that he might make the church people holy, when they were washed with water by God’s word. (World English N.T.)

    Do you really want leave the interpretation of Ephesians 5:26 to others,why would you not read it and believe what it says?

    Is God smart enough to guide men to accurately translate the Bible?

    Two choices: 1. Trust God’s written word, the BIBLE. or 2. Trust preachers, priests, pastors, Bible commentators, the man on the street, your friends and relatives or creed books, for the truth and nothing but the truth.

    Mark 16:16 “He who believes and is baptized will be saved….(NKJV)

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